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go arsenal!!!
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Manchester UNITED..
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Eii Arsenal is Gangster team
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Chelsea....
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chelsea la meh!
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how come u say arsenal is gangster cam?
chelsea use money to buy player
dirty trick
always want to get the best player then act like they were terror enough lol
chelsea use money to buy player
dirty trick
always want to get the best player then act like they were terror enough lol
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Lovehalfdead wrote:how come u say arsenal is gangster cam?
chelsea use money to buy player
dirty trick
always want to get the best player then act like they were terror enough lol
dont talk big,
American owner of Arsenal now going to bankrupt.....Russian billionaire going to buy over Arsenal.....hahahaahahah later Arsenal also going to buy players also!!!
hahahahaah....then spanish player french player playing for free in Arsenal??
No wonder cannot win with Chelsea and Man U...LOL
CHELSEA RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!
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hahaha chelsea fans are crazy.
they didnt see things clearly.
they didnt see things clearly.
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Arsenal is the gangster team!!!!!
Kesian Arsenal taukey want to jatuh bankrupt....kena sell like selling 'daging'
kesian Arsenal....then want to reverse psychology said Chelsea fans crazy.....LOL
Kesian Arsenal taukey want to jatuh bankrupt....kena sell like selling 'daging'
kesian Arsenal....then want to reverse psychology said Chelsea fans crazy.....LOL
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Dein will lead Russian bid for Arsenal after selling stake
By Sam Wallace, Football Correspondent
Friday, 31 August 2007
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The former Arsenal vice-chairman David Dein yesterday made a dramatic return to English football at the head of a Russian consortium with their sights set on taking over his former club. Dein has sold his Arsenal stake to the investors in return for £75m and a place in charge of the new company bidding to take over the club.
Alisher Usmanov is the new name with ambitions to control Arsenal. He is the world's 142nd-richest man according to the Forbes rich list, a 53-year-old from Uzbekistan worth £2.75bn. Based in Moscow, he is a close friend the of Chelsea owner, Roman Abramovich, and has a private box at the Emirates Stadium. His business partner is Farhad Moshiri, an Iranian fund manager based in London.
The pair have installed Dein as the chairman of their new holding company and his role will be to oversee the acquisition of more Arsenal shares for the two investors, although yesterday he refused to comment on the other party stalking the club. Stan Kroenke, the American sports tycoon who owns 12.19 per cent of Arsenal, was the man to whom Dein was tipped to sell his 14.58 per cent stake ever since his acrimonious departure in April.
Yesterday, Dein, 63, refused to divulge why he had not sold his stake to Kroenke, although it would not be impossible for the two sides to work together in the future. While both sides are adamant that they are working independently – in keeping with Stock Exchange rules – the nightmare scenario for the Arsenal board is that the Russians will at some point combine with Kroenke to take over the club.
The Arsenal board members have an agreement not to sell any of their shares until April, but from then it will be a question of which party breaks first. The board has 45.45 per cent under its control and the key stakeholder now is Danny Fiszman with 21.1 per cent. If the Geneva-based diamond dealer decides to sell, then the board will lose control. The Arsenal share price rose to £7,100 last night, valuing the club at £441m.
It is another chapter in an extraordinary six months for the club: from Dein's bitter departure in April and the sale of Thierry Henry in June to the wait for Arsène Wenger to sign a new contract. The chairman Peter Hill-Wood's snub to Kroenke – "We don't need his money and we don't want his sort" – now looks ever more likely to be the epitaph to an old regime. With two foreign investors now circling, Arsenal are prime candidates for a takeover.
Speaking for the first time since his departure in April, Dein would not go into the details of his split with the board, which cited " irreconcilable differences" when he was sacked. He would only say that in the last five months he had watched Arsenal at the Emirates from friends' executive boxes. He was passionate about the need for Arsenal to attract foreign investment if they were to continue to compete with the biggest clubs in the Premier League.
Under Dein's chairmanship, the new investment company Red and White Holdings said yesterday that it had "committed funds to enable it to increase its stake in Arsenal". Dein once characterised Abramovich's arrival and the threat to Arsenal from Chelsea as the Russian "parking tanks on our lawn and firing banknotes at us". Now it is the former Arsenal vice-chairman who is preparing to take over his club from the outside.
He claimed that the new shareholders would even be prepared to invest in the team in return for a share rights issue, but given the board's current position that seems to be unlikely.
Dein's ambitions also stretch beyond Arsenal. He indicated that he would be interested in the newly created role of independent chairman of the Football Association.
He did not appear to see any conflict in being wholly committed to the principle of foreign investment in English football and doing that job.
A board member since 1983, when he paid around £292,000 for his original 16.6 per cent stake in Arsenal, Dein played on his connection with the club to reassure supporters – "I have always had the best interests of Arsenal at heart – I've had a love affair with the club since I was six," he said. Dein described Usmanov and Moshiri as "individuals who share my vision for Arsenal and where it needs to go to be the world's leading football club".
Dein also claimed he had been approached by more than one potential investor for his stake but settled on Usmanov and Moshiri – presumably because they handed him such a crucial role in their investment company. Dein added that Usmanov was such a dedicated fan that he could even name the 1971 Arsenal Double-winning side.
Whether anyone gets the chance to test that claim is unlikely. Usmanov is known as an uncompromising, tough businessman who bought Russian steel and mining companies. He profited handsomely through investment in the British steel company Corus. He has reportedly tried to invest in Italian football before now. Crucially for any Russian oligarch, he evidently has the support of President Vladimir Putin, having been awarded the Presidential Medal of Honour in 2004.
Edelman said last night: "The club is in an incredibly good position financially, we are very strong and you will see that at the end of September when we produce our results. We have ample cash resources for the manager to invest in the team and the squad. The manager caught his targets this year well within his budgets, which means his budgets will be increased next year."
Sharing in Gunners' glory
David Dein paid £292,000 in 1983 for a 16 per cent stake in Arsenal.
Yesterday he sold shares worth a 14.58 per cent stake for £75m to Red and White Holdings Ltd, of which Dein will become chairman.
Roubles rule in the Premier League
Roman Abramovich
Russian oil billionaire, aged 40, and owner of investment company Millhouse Capital, Abramovich is worth $18.7bn (£9.3bn). In June 2003 Abramovich raised his profile in Britain with the purchase of Chelsea football club, wiping their £80m debt burden and establishing them as one of the biggest, and richest teams in Europe.
Alexandre 'Sacha' Gaydamak
French businessman of Russian descent, aged 31, Gaydamak followed in his fathers footsteps (Arcadi Gaydamak) and became co-owner of Premier League Portsmouth alongside Milan Mandaric in January 2006. Gaydamak went on to become the sole owner of the club in June of that year.
By Sam Wallace, Football Correspondent
Friday, 31 August 2007
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The former Arsenal vice-chairman David Dein yesterday made a dramatic return to English football at the head of a Russian consortium with their sights set on taking over his former club. Dein has sold his Arsenal stake to the investors in return for £75m and a place in charge of the new company bidding to take over the club.
Alisher Usmanov is the new name with ambitions to control Arsenal. He is the world's 142nd-richest man according to the Forbes rich list, a 53-year-old from Uzbekistan worth £2.75bn. Based in Moscow, he is a close friend the of Chelsea owner, Roman Abramovich, and has a private box at the Emirates Stadium. His business partner is Farhad Moshiri, an Iranian fund manager based in London.
The pair have installed Dein as the chairman of their new holding company and his role will be to oversee the acquisition of more Arsenal shares for the two investors, although yesterday he refused to comment on the other party stalking the club. Stan Kroenke, the American sports tycoon who owns 12.19 per cent of Arsenal, was the man to whom Dein was tipped to sell his 14.58 per cent stake ever since his acrimonious departure in April.
Yesterday, Dein, 63, refused to divulge why he had not sold his stake to Kroenke, although it would not be impossible for the two sides to work together in the future. While both sides are adamant that they are working independently – in keeping with Stock Exchange rules – the nightmare scenario for the Arsenal board is that the Russians will at some point combine with Kroenke to take over the club.
The Arsenal board members have an agreement not to sell any of their shares until April, but from then it will be a question of which party breaks first. The board has 45.45 per cent under its control and the key stakeholder now is Danny Fiszman with 21.1 per cent. If the Geneva-based diamond dealer decides to sell, then the board will lose control. The Arsenal share price rose to £7,100 last night, valuing the club at £441m.
It is another chapter in an extraordinary six months for the club: from Dein's bitter departure in April and the sale of Thierry Henry in June to the wait for Arsène Wenger to sign a new contract. The chairman Peter Hill-Wood's snub to Kroenke – "We don't need his money and we don't want his sort" – now looks ever more likely to be the epitaph to an old regime. With two foreign investors now circling, Arsenal are prime candidates for a takeover.
Speaking for the first time since his departure in April, Dein would not go into the details of his split with the board, which cited " irreconcilable differences" when he was sacked. He would only say that in the last five months he had watched Arsenal at the Emirates from friends' executive boxes. He was passionate about the need for Arsenal to attract foreign investment if they were to continue to compete with the biggest clubs in the Premier League.
Under Dein's chairmanship, the new investment company Red and White Holdings said yesterday that it had "committed funds to enable it to increase its stake in Arsenal". Dein once characterised Abramovich's arrival and the threat to Arsenal from Chelsea as the Russian "parking tanks on our lawn and firing banknotes at us". Now it is the former Arsenal vice-chairman who is preparing to take over his club from the outside.
He claimed that the new shareholders would even be prepared to invest in the team in return for a share rights issue, but given the board's current position that seems to be unlikely.
Dein's ambitions also stretch beyond Arsenal. He indicated that he would be interested in the newly created role of independent chairman of the Football Association.
He did not appear to see any conflict in being wholly committed to the principle of foreign investment in English football and doing that job.
A board member since 1983, when he paid around £292,000 for his original 16.6 per cent stake in Arsenal, Dein played on his connection with the club to reassure supporters – "I have always had the best interests of Arsenal at heart – I've had a love affair with the club since I was six," he said. Dein described Usmanov and Moshiri as "individuals who share my vision for Arsenal and where it needs to go to be the world's leading football club".
Dein also claimed he had been approached by more than one potential investor for his stake but settled on Usmanov and Moshiri – presumably because they handed him such a crucial role in their investment company. Dein added that Usmanov was such a dedicated fan that he could even name the 1971 Arsenal Double-winning side.
Whether anyone gets the chance to test that claim is unlikely. Usmanov is known as an uncompromising, tough businessman who bought Russian steel and mining companies. He profited handsomely through investment in the British steel company Corus. He has reportedly tried to invest in Italian football before now. Crucially for any Russian oligarch, he evidently has the support of President Vladimir Putin, having been awarded the Presidential Medal of Honour in 2004.
Edelman said last night: "The club is in an incredibly good position financially, we are very strong and you will see that at the end of September when we produce our results. We have ample cash resources for the manager to invest in the team and the squad. The manager caught his targets this year well within his budgets, which means his budgets will be increased next year."
Sharing in Gunners' glory
David Dein paid £292,000 in 1983 for a 16 per cent stake in Arsenal.
Yesterday he sold shares worth a 14.58 per cent stake for £75m to Red and White Holdings Ltd, of which Dein will become chairman.
Roubles rule in the Premier League
Roman Abramovich
Russian oil billionaire, aged 40, and owner of investment company Millhouse Capital, Abramovich is worth $18.7bn (£9.3bn). In June 2003 Abramovich raised his profile in Britain with the purchase of Chelsea football club, wiping their £80m debt burden and establishing them as one of the biggest, and richest teams in Europe.
Alexandre 'Sacha' Gaydamak
French businessman of Russian descent, aged 31, Gaydamak followed in his fathers footsteps (Arcadi Gaydamak) and became co-owner of Premier League Portsmouth alongside Milan Mandaric in January 2006. Gaydamak went on to become the sole owner of the club in June of that year.
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Lelong Lelong Arsenal.....
Arsenal new owner is best buddy of Roman Abramovich.....CHELSEA BOSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hahahahahaa.....jap lagi Arsenal banyak ayam serati!!!
Moral of the story!!
Next time dont start 'kutuk2' my team when you dont know what actually happen behind the scene
Arsenal new owner is best buddy of Roman Abramovich.....CHELSEA BOSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hahahahahaa.....jap lagi Arsenal banyak ayam serati!!!
Moral of the story!!
Next time dont start 'kutuk2' my team when you dont know what actually happen behind the scene
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Arsenal take many players from AFRICAN TEAM.....
Last year got a comment where an ENGLISH CLUB but not a SINGLE ENGLISH player play on the field.....what was that??
Yah lah...they play for free.....owner going to bankrupt
Not like Chelsea.. LOL
Last year got a comment where an ENGLISH CLUB but not a SINGLE ENGLISH player play on the field.....what was that??
Yah lah...they play for free.....owner going to bankrupt
Not like Chelsea.. LOL
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?? lol
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hahaha i love arsenal.
they beat everton 3-1
they beat everton 3-1
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Hate Arsenal!! Vamos MU .. LOL..
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nf,support me!!
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camomile wrote:Lovehalfdead wrote:how come u say arsenal is gangster cam?
chelsea use money to buy player
dirty trick
always want to get the best player then act like they were terror enough lol
dont talk big,
American owner of Arsenal now going to bankrupt.....Russian billionaire going to buy over Arsenal.....hahahaahahah later Arsenal also going to buy players also!!!
hahahahaah....then spanish player french player playing for free in Arsenal??
No wonder cannot win with Chelsea and Man U...LOL
CHELSEA RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!
NO WAY.
Arsenal wont buy many players as long Arsene Wenger is manager.
They'll stick to their policy of bringing and training up young players like Fabregas, Aaron Ramsey and Jack Wilsheire.
So if they got money also they wont buy that many players...ahhhh.
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YES LHD I'll support you
And Naz, i like ManU too, just not as much as Arsenal. Don't make me hate them too
And Naz, i like ManU too, just not as much as Arsenal. Don't make me hate them too
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I am a Liverpool fanatic...!!!!!!!!!!
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Nf-Heartbreaker wrote:camomile wrote:Lovehalfdead wrote:how come u say arsenal is gangster cam?
chelsea use money to buy player
dirty trick
always want to get the best player then act like they were terror enough lol
dont talk big,
American owner of Arsenal now going to bankrupt.....Russian billionaire going to buy over Arsenal.....hahahaahahah later Arsenal also going to buy players also!!!
hahahahaah....then spanish player french player playing for free in Arsenal??
No wonder cannot win with Chelsea and Man U...LOL
CHELSEA RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!
NO WAY.
Arsenal wont buy many players as long Arsene Wenger is manager.
They'll stick to their policy of bringing and training up young players like Fabregas, Aaron Ramsey and Jack Wilsheire.
So if they got money also they wont buy that many players...ahhhh.
Who said!!!
They are the only English team without English player, ALL are import players....only recently when their fanclub commented hahahaah, they also bought players....
Read lah beb....
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Arsenal in dock over £1m 'secret payment'
By Nick Harris
Friday, 2 June 2006
Sepp Blatter, the president of Fifa, last night told Arsenal to disclose the full details of their financial relationship with the Belgian club Beveren to ascertain whether they have broken any regulations over multiple club ownership or have been guilty of a conflict of interests. The head of football's world governing body intervened after BBC's Newsnight programme revealed that a Belgian police investigation had concluded that Arsenal made secret payments of £1m to Beveren.
Arsenal issued a statement last night, saying they had lent the money in 2001 to a third party who wanted to secure Beveren's future, and denied owning Beveren, directly or indirectly, at any stage. Whether their explanation will be good enough for Fifa remains to be seen.
The payments were made in 2001 in the form of interest-free loans to Raoul de Waele, a business associate of Arsenal's vice-chairman, David Dein. Documents obtained by Newsnight show the money was used to set up a company called Goal, which would take control of Beveren. This happened. The documents show that the loan and other money advanced by Arsenal would be repaid out of Goal's share of transfer profits from selling imported Ivorians and other players. It is not clear when, or how much, money Arsenal received.
In practice, the tie-up gave Arsenal an effective monopoly over the futures of Beveren's many Ivorian players. According to Newsnight, Arsenal funded the Beveren buyout so that Jean Marc Guillou, an old friend of Arsène Wenger, could use it as a staging post to import talented Ivorian players into Europe more easily. Guillou had formerly been the head of the ASEC academy in the Ivory Coast, which produced players including Kolo Touré.
Arsenal bought Touré directly from ASEC in 2002 in a deal that turned sour for ASEC when Guillou left after a dispute with a business partner. Guillou did not have the funds to buy Beveren himself.
Instead the De Waele-controlled Goal, funded by Arsenal's money, took legal control. A director at Beveren told Newsnight that in return for £1m, De Waele was given 50 per cent control of Beveren and Guillou was given another 30 per cent.
Christian du Four, the investigating magistrate in the Flemish town of Dendermonde, who began his probe into Beveren under the initial, mistaken, belief that the secretive £1m funding may have been linked to money-laundering, described De Waele as Arsenal's "straw man" on the Beveren board.
If Arsenal did have any formal ownership of Beveren, the conflict of interests would be clear, not least in their transfer dealings. Arsenal bought Emmanuel Eboué from Beveren in January last year.
Arsenal said in a statement last night: "We do not normally make public our agreements with third parties. However, we can confirm we have had a technical relationship with Beveren since 2001.
"This relationship has a number of benefits to both clubs such as providing a platform to share coaching methods and techniques as well as facilitating the option of players being loaned between the clubs.
"During the course of the relationship, Arsenal players David Grondin, Liam Chilvers, John Halls and Graham Stack all spent successful loan periods at Beveren as did Emmanuel Eboué, who played in a number of trial matches with Arsenal whilst contracted to Beveren. Such was the latter player's success, Arsenal subsequently signed Eboué on a permanent basis.
"In addition, we confirm that we have never owned, directly or indirectly, any shares in Beveren or had any power whatsoever to influence its management or administration.
"We did in 2001 provide funds of €1,570,703 (£1.075m) by way of loan to a member of a consortium who used the money to assist in stabilising the finances of Beveren.
"At no time has anyone at Arsenal been contacted by any regulatory or investigatory body with respect to our relationship with Beveren. Arsenal have acted properly throughout, in accordance with all applicable rules and regulations," the club stated.
In a further revelation that will cause embarrassment, if not lead to any formal investigation, Newsnight also obtained documentary evidence that Wenger invested £30,000 of his own money in ASEC between 1997 and 1999 when Guillou was still in charge.
According to one document, it was anticipated that Wenger could expect to make £100,000 from his share of player sales by ASEC.
This raises a clear conflict of interest issue because Arsenal subsequently bought Touré directly from ASEC. But it is understood Arsenal were happy with Wenger investing, and Wenger has since said privately that the money was a donation, not an investment. There is no evidence Wenger was paid any of his money back.
By Nick Harris
Friday, 2 June 2006
Sepp Blatter, the president of Fifa, last night told Arsenal to disclose the full details of their financial relationship with the Belgian club Beveren to ascertain whether they have broken any regulations over multiple club ownership or have been guilty of a conflict of interests. The head of football's world governing body intervened after BBC's Newsnight programme revealed that a Belgian police investigation had concluded that Arsenal made secret payments of £1m to Beveren.
Arsenal issued a statement last night, saying they had lent the money in 2001 to a third party who wanted to secure Beveren's future, and denied owning Beveren, directly or indirectly, at any stage. Whether their explanation will be good enough for Fifa remains to be seen.
The payments were made in 2001 in the form of interest-free loans to Raoul de Waele, a business associate of Arsenal's vice-chairman, David Dein. Documents obtained by Newsnight show the money was used to set up a company called Goal, which would take control of Beveren. This happened. The documents show that the loan and other money advanced by Arsenal would be repaid out of Goal's share of transfer profits from selling imported Ivorians and other players. It is not clear when, or how much, money Arsenal received.
In practice, the tie-up gave Arsenal an effective monopoly over the futures of Beveren's many Ivorian players. According to Newsnight, Arsenal funded the Beveren buyout so that Jean Marc Guillou, an old friend of Arsène Wenger, could use it as a staging post to import talented Ivorian players into Europe more easily. Guillou had formerly been the head of the ASEC academy in the Ivory Coast, which produced players including Kolo Touré.
Arsenal bought Touré directly from ASEC in 2002 in a deal that turned sour for ASEC when Guillou left after a dispute with a business partner. Guillou did not have the funds to buy Beveren himself.
Instead the De Waele-controlled Goal, funded by Arsenal's money, took legal control. A director at Beveren told Newsnight that in return for £1m, De Waele was given 50 per cent control of Beveren and Guillou was given another 30 per cent.
Christian du Four, the investigating magistrate in the Flemish town of Dendermonde, who began his probe into Beveren under the initial, mistaken, belief that the secretive £1m funding may have been linked to money-laundering, described De Waele as Arsenal's "straw man" on the Beveren board.
If Arsenal did have any formal ownership of Beveren, the conflict of interests would be clear, not least in their transfer dealings. Arsenal bought Emmanuel Eboué from Beveren in January last year.
Arsenal said in a statement last night: "We do not normally make public our agreements with third parties. However, we can confirm we have had a technical relationship with Beveren since 2001.
"This relationship has a number of benefits to both clubs such as providing a platform to share coaching methods and techniques as well as facilitating the option of players being loaned between the clubs.
"During the course of the relationship, Arsenal players David Grondin, Liam Chilvers, John Halls and Graham Stack all spent successful loan periods at Beveren as did Emmanuel Eboué, who played in a number of trial matches with Arsenal whilst contracted to Beveren. Such was the latter player's success, Arsenal subsequently signed Eboué on a permanent basis.
"In addition, we confirm that we have never owned, directly or indirectly, any shares in Beveren or had any power whatsoever to influence its management or administration.
"We did in 2001 provide funds of €1,570,703 (£1.075m) by way of loan to a member of a consortium who used the money to assist in stabilising the finances of Beveren.
"At no time has anyone at Arsenal been contacted by any regulatory or investigatory body with respect to our relationship with Beveren. Arsenal have acted properly throughout, in accordance with all applicable rules and regulations," the club stated.
In a further revelation that will cause embarrassment, if not lead to any formal investigation, Newsnight also obtained documentary evidence that Wenger invested £30,000 of his own money in ASEC between 1997 and 1999 when Guillou was still in charge.
According to one document, it was anticipated that Wenger could expect to make £100,000 from his share of player sales by ASEC.
This raises a clear conflict of interest issue because Arsenal subsequently bought Touré directly from ASEC. But it is understood Arsenal were happy with Wenger investing, and Wenger has since said privately that the money was a donation, not an investment. There is no evidence Wenger was paid any of his money back.
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No wonder you guys dont know....Arsenal has been doing it secretly!!!!!!!
Very sneaky of Arsene Wenge.......LOL
They said they have brought up the player not bought.....Liar
Very sneaky of Arsene Wenge.......LOL
They said they have brought up the player not bought.....Liar
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BBC Newsnight has learnt that a police probe in Belgium has concluded Arsenal made secret payments of £1m to Beveren. Arsenal have admitted providing a loan to Beveren, but say they have never had a controlling influence over the club. Fifa are investigating whether Arsenal have breached rules governing fair play and conflict of interest. It was a mystery payment of one million pounds to an obscure Belgian football club in 2001 which sparked off a money-laundering investigation.
Fog of secrecy Christian du Four, the Investigating Magistrate in the Flemish town of Dendermonde, told Newsnight, "A company with no name wanted to invest a million pounds in the club. We thought it rather bizarre." At the same time the team threw out most of its Belgian players and replaced them with unknowns from an academy in Ivory Coast, West Africa. Belgian police suspected the fog of secrecy was hiding mafia involvement. Instead after an investigation they have told Newsnight that they found Arsenal's secret hand behind the money. Arsenal has a public deal with Beveren to play friendly matches and loan players but Arsenal have repeatedly denied that they put money into the club. Arsenal now admit that they did loan money, indirectly, to Beveren. An Arsenal spokesman said "Arsenal confirms that it has never owned, directly or indirectly, any shares in Beveren or had any power whatsoever to influence its management or administration. It did in 2001 provide funds of 1,570,703 euros by way of loan to a member of the consortium to assist in stabilising the finances of Beveren."
Arsene Wenger's Ivory Coast connection goes back a long way. Wenger was given his break in management by Jean Marc Guillou. Guillou was a team mate of Platini in the French 1978 World Cup side and by the early '80s he was manager of Cannes with Wenger as his assistant. Guillou and Wenger bought players cheap from Africa. Academy Their first success was Youssouf Fofana bought from Ivory Coast. By the 1990s Wenger was Manager of Monaco. His old friend Guillou came to him with an idea to turn Ivory Coast into a football factory. Monaco put money into an Academy in the Ivorian capital run in cooperation with the local team Africa's top side ASEC of Abidjan.
But after Wenger left Monaco the club stopped funding the academy and Guillou needed more funds to keep it going until the youngster were old enough to sell. Newsnight has obtained a document (Document A) signed by Guillou which lists 11 investors including himself. According to the document they expected a 300% profit on their investment which would be made by selling the academy players on to Europe. ASECs boss Roger Ouegnin told us "They are not investors they are usurers." Also listed is Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger who according to the document expected to make nearly £100,000 on a £30,000 investment. If his friend Guillou's claims are true this would put Arsene Wenger in the difficult position of making money on transfers - particularly as Arsenal bought Kolo Toure directly from the academy. The payouts are still frozen subject to a series of legal cases in Belgium and France but we understand that Arsene Wenger now says there was a misunderstanding and his payment was a donation not an investment. Regulations The first four players including Toure were sold directly from the Academy but it was difficult to get work permits for Ivorian players to compete in the top European leagues unless like Toure they already had enough international appearances to qualify. Guillou hit on the idea of buying up a Belgian first division club cheap since the Belgian FA had relatively weak regulations.
But even taking control of a struggling Belgian club was going to cost more than a million pounds. Guilou did not have access to that amount of money but he knew a man who did. Reading from his investigation, Mr Du Four said: "Jean Marc Guillou who is the manager of Beveren has very close contacts with Arsene Wenger the coach of Arsenal and that is why they went ahead with the contract." He then highlighted one contract signed by Arsenal Vice-Chairman David Dein. The contract (Document B) shows Dein agreeing to advance 12 million Belgian francs (around £200,000) on behalf of Arsenal Football Club in an interest free loan to an associate of his called Raoul de Waele. The loan was to establish a company called Goal which would take over control of Beveren football club. The loan and other money advanced by Arsenal would be repaid out of Goal's share of transfer profits. Du Four says that in all Arsenal put in £1m. "Straw man" A director of Beveren, who did not wish to be identified, told Newsnight that in return for the £1m de Waele was given 50% control of Beveren and Guillou was given another 30%.
The Beveren Director told us that the club agreed to give most of the profits from the sales of Ivorian players to Goal and Guillou. In the first year the split would be 60% for Goal, 30% for Guillou and just 10% for Beveren but in the following years the club would get 30% and Goal would get 40%. The club sold players all over Europe including to France, Ukraine and Greece and of course Eboue to Arsenal in January 2005 just after he had married his Belgian girlfriend and acquired European citizenship. It is not clear what happened to the millions of Euros generated by these sales but again if Arsenal ended up with a cut that will be a matter for Fifa. Belgian authorities were looking for the mafia not breaches of Fifa rules so they stopped their investigation and have kept it under wraps till now but they are happy to pass on their investigation file to Fifa. Crucial last game Newsnight watched an all-white crowd cheer on an all-black Beveren to victory in a crucial last game of the season last month to apparently save themselves from relegation but the deal with Arsenal and Guillou has now collapsed.
Whatever happened to the millions in transfer fees very little of it seems to have ended up at the club. The Ivorian stars Toure and Eboue are happy and will be facing Argentina in the World Cup in just over a week but back in Abidjan there is unhappiness that little of the money generated by football has made it back to the Ivory Coast. Roger Ouegnin at ASECS is still waiting for the £1m that he say Beveren owe them. He and Guillou are counterclaiming against each other. Ouegnin also claims Arsenal have not paid him £500,000 which he says they owe for Kolo Toure even though he says it is just a "drop in the ocean" for them when Toure is worth £10 million plus. |
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camomile wrote:Who said!!!
They are the only English team without English player, ALL are import players....only recently when their fanclub commented hahahaah, they also bought players....
Read lah beb....
Who say dont have
Got Theo Walcott, Aaron Ramsey and Jack Wilsheire, I think. YOu say ALL are imported players leh
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BUt the fact is ARSENAL DID BOUGHT PLAYERS NOT BROUGHT!
LOL
hahahahahaha.....very sneaky Arsenal...............
LOL
hahahahahaha.....very sneaky Arsenal...............
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So Arsenal cannot produce exceptional England players anymore?
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camomile wrote:BUt the fact is ARSENAL DID BOUGHT PLAYERS NOT BROUGHT!
LOL
hahahahahaha.....very sneaky Arsenal...............
HUH?
I dont get you
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camomile wrote:So Arsenal cannot produce exceptional England players anymore?
Who said they couldn't?
If they want to they will lah
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LIVERPOOL..... You'll Never Walk Alone.....
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Liverpool lost 0-1 to Tottenham Hotspurs...
Thanks Tottenham...now Chelsea lead the EPL league....LOL
Chelsea won 5-0 go Sunderland....
BLUE FOREVER!!!
Thanks Tottenham...now Chelsea lead the EPL league....LOL
Chelsea won 5-0 go Sunderland....
BLUE FOREVER!!!
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ARSENAL LOST 1-2 TO STOKE CITY
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Oh another thing...Thank you Liverpool for losing the previous game...hehehe
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